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Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:33 am
by mikebet45
Bike had been sitting for a while and when I turned on the ignition the indicated voltage (I have a digital voltmeter wired directly to the battery) went from 12 down to 6 or so and then when I pushed the starter button the digital voltmeter went completely blank. OK, low battery, so I hooked up my Deltran charger and began to see some strange things. The voltage fluctuated every second or so by a huge margin -- 12.5 - 15.1 - 6.6 - 13.0 - 8.6- 15.0 -7.2 -- etc. -- constantly going from very high to very low. Leaving the charger on for an extended time doesn't seem to change anything. What's happening? I hope it's as simple as a bad battery but I've never seen that wildly fluctuating voltage while charging before.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:31 pm
by Herb
Sounds like a bad battery to me. There are places that will load test the battery for free.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:40 pm
by sgtcall
Before you try and chase down a gremlin take the battery to any auto parts store and have it load tested. If you don't start with a good battery you will never find the issue. But like Herb said it is probably a bad battery.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:24 pm
by hillsy v2
Just to check - do you have the charger connected directly to the battery terminals or is it connected via the bikes wiring? More than likely a dud battery but also symptoms of loose wire connections.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:20 pm
by mikebet45
Charger is wired directly to the battery terminals with harness provided by Deltran. I'd better just get a new battery because I don't know the age of this one and I'd hate to get stranded up in the Sierra where there is no phone service.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:30 pm
by Designer
mikebet45 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:20 pm
Charger is wired directly to the battery terminals with harness provided by Deltran. I'd better just get a new battery because I don't know the age of this one and I'd hate to get stranded up in the Sierra where there is no phone service.
Smart move.

Just as Herb and Sgtcall mention. the foundation of any-and-all good running is a Battery in full charge and top condition.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:22 am
by FallenAngel
a loose connection will also give sporadic readings

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:34 am
by hillsy v2
mikebet45 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:20 pm
Charger is wired directly to the battery terminals with harness provided by Deltran.
You probably want to check that connection first up. Might simply be a loose cable.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:01 am
by Designer
Designer wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:30 pm
mikebet45 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:20 pm
Charger is wired directly to the battery terminals with harness provided by Deltran. I'd better just get a new battery because I don't know the age of this one and I'd hate to get stranded up in the Sierra where there is no phone service.
Smart move. Just as Herb and Sgtcall mention. the foundation of any-and-all good running is a Battery in full charge and top condition.
It's obvious, but needs be said ........when you preplace the Battery, any loose connection issues will be fully addressed in their entirety.

And given you do not know the age of the battery, (and thus it's reliability in the remoteness of Sierra Mountain Environment),....replacing it seems to be Sensible and Cheap Insurance. :space: :dunno:

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:08 am
by hillsy v2
Designer wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:01 am

It's obvious, but needs be said ........when you preplace the Battery, any loose connection issues will be fully addressed in their entirety.

The battery terminals are not the only electrical connections in the system.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:11 am
by Designer
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:08 am
Designer wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:01 am
It's obvious, but needs be said ........when you preplace the Battery, any loose connection issues will be fully addressed in their entirety.
The battery terminals are not the only electrical connections in the system.
Seems to me that the battery connection(s) at the battery is what you were talking about him checking. :space: Especially since he was talking about the Deltran wire,...which gets connected only to the Battery Post Terminals.
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:34 am
mikebet45 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:20 pm
Charger is wired directly to the battery terminals with harness provided by Deltran.
You probably want to check that connection first up. Might simply be a loose cable.
And,...he says the voltmeter is also connected only at the battery;
mikebet45 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:33 am
...... (I have a digital voltmeter wired directly to the battery)

:dunno:

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:13 am
by hillsy v2
I said check that first.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:50 am
by Designer
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:13 am
I said check that first.

What I am saying is that when he wisely replaces the Battery, ( for the stated reasons mentioned) checking for looseness at the current Battery Connections at the Battery Terminals would not be necessary.

Wouldn't you agree? :space: :dunno:

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
by navigator
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:17 am
by Herb
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
If the charger and the volt meter connections are at the battery and he is getting strange readings, the issue pretty much has to be at the battery.

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:27 pm
by FallenAngel
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
LOL
The end you see and the end you dont see

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:47 pm
by hillsy v2
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
No nav - there's only one end on a battery cable - Springy is the expert here :lmao:

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:19 pm
by Designer
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:47 pm
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
No nav - there's only one end on a battery cable - Springy is the expert here :lmao:
In the interests of posting what is Factually Accurate Information on our Tech Board,... so as to be The Best Benefit To Others,.....Please hillsy,....show us all where I said what you say I did .....(posted underlined above) .

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:48 pm
by Herb
Designer wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:19 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:47 pm
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
No nav - there's only one end on a battery cable - Springy is the expert here :lmao:
In the interests of posting what is Factually Accurate Information on our Tech Board,... so as to be The Best Benefit To Others,.....Please hillsy,....show us all where I said what you say I did .....(posted underlined above) .
Considering the way the gripe was written, the following pretty much covers it and the other end could be hanging out in space for all the fucking difference it makes.

"If the charger and the volt meter connections are at the battery and he is getting strange readings, the issue pretty much has to be at the battery."

Re: Electrical weirdness

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:31 am
by hillsy v2
Designer wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:19 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:47 pm
navigator wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:30 am
FYI, each and every battery cable has two ends.... :uhh:
No nav - there's only one end on a battery cable - Springy is the expert here :lmao:
In the interests of posting what is Factually Accurate Information on our Tech Board,... so as to be The Best Benefit To Others,.....Please hillsy,....show us all where I said what you say I did .....(posted underlined above) .
I never claimed you said anything - if you want to go off on another of your pissy little rants you should technically be aiming it at navigator.