So get new bars and grips installed and took it for a ride, smelled a little too rich, took it home, parked and while let cool, took the wife to a local bar for some live music and a good craft beer. Get home and i smell gas.
Into the garage, gas on the floor, and look underneath and saw the drain from the rear intake box was dripping gas and gas was all around the outlet where the hose meets the box.
Is this from a stuck open needle valve allowing fuel to flow freely from the tank through and backflow into the intake box?
I have yet to experience this, could i get hydrolock if the fuel gets into cylender? Could gas flow and permiate down the piston into the oil?? I will try and pull the carb tomorrow but yet again, the bike is down...
Needle valve?
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Re: Needle valve?
Yes it is possible to get hydrolock if the gas gets into the cylinder and yes it may seep past the rings and into the sump. Take your oil fill cap off and smell the oil - if it smells like gas, then it's got gas in it. Change the oil is that is the case.
You may find there is just some junk under the float valve seat keeping it open - always a good idea on these bikes to run a good paper element filter and change it regularly.
You may find there is just some junk under the float valve seat keeping it open - always a good idea on these bikes to run a good paper element filter and change it regularly.
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Re: Needle valve?
Also, turn the fuel valve to OFF when you park it, especially in a garage or other enclosed space.
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Re: Needle valve?
Was your main fuel valve off....or on? Please tell us. I always turn my fuel valve off, but I too get a gas smell if the engine is hot and cooking the tank. But an actual gas puddle is a different situation.WintrSol wrote:Also, turn the fuel valve to OFF when you park it, especially in a garage or other enclosed space.
I think there is a slight downward slope from rear carb to cylinder, so I doubt if you would any gas into the engine.
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Re: Needle valve?
Selector switch was in on position. Sometimes i turn it off, sometimes i dont... this time, one of the times i forgot ... dangit.. wont happen again.
Again, hopefully tomororw ill have time to open it up and chexk the insides
Again, hopefully tomororw ill have time to open it up and chexk the insides
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Re: Needle valve?
most likely a stick float valve..??.. If you haven't road her in awhile the dang ethanol builds up. Put some sea foam in the fuel tank. Than ride the piss outta her.
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Re: Needle valve?
There have been some people on this board that had an issue with the o-ring that seals the seat on the needle valve. They deteriorate over the years and will let gas past the side of the seat.
I very seldom turn off the gas. if there is going to be a leak I want to know about it BEFORE I ride, not while I am riding.
I very seldom turn off the gas. if there is going to be a leak I want to know about it BEFORE I ride, not while I am riding.
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Re: Needle valve?
I have had that on numerous occasions and with pipes cracking undertank and dumping fuel all over the garage floor. I now have a Triumph type petcock at the back of the tank on the left. When it is off it is off off.Herb wrote:There have been some people on this board that had an issue with the o-ring that seals the seat on the needle valve. They deteriorate over the years and will let gas past the side of the seat.
I very seldom turn off the gas. if there is going to be a leak I want to know about it BEFORE I ride, not while I am riding.
No stupid secondary pet cocks with a screwdriver slot. The o rings in that can leak too.
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Re: Needle valve?
On the original tank, that my wife destroyed when she ran over the bike, I had installed a petcock off of an '82 GS550, on the lower left side. Worked good for over a year. Since I replaced the tank I haven't bothered to install the petcock on it.Fred wrote:I have had that on numerous occasions and with pipes cracking undertank and dumping fuel all over the garage floor. I now have a Triumph type petcock at the back of the tank on the left. When it is off it is off off.Herb wrote:There have been some people on this board that had an issue with the o-ring that seals the seat on the needle valve. They deteriorate over the years and will let gas past the side of the seat.
I very seldom turn off the gas. if there is going to be a leak I want to know about it BEFORE I ride, not while I am riding.
No stupid secondary pet cocks with a screwdriver slot. The o rings in that can leak too.
Still only turned the fuel off for maintenance. Like I said, if there is an issue, I want to know about it before it sets the bike on fire.
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