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Spark Plugs

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:33 pm
by JamesC
My rear cylinder wasn't firing properly on my 03 140 Intruder. I pulled the plug and not only was it black with soot, it was very loose. I have found that it is very difficult to install the plugs with a standard deep 18mm socket. Luckily, I had the original tool pouch from the last intruder I owned. It has a spark plug tool that works perfectly. So tomorrow I will be replacing both plugs with new ones. My question is, what gap do you fellows find most appropriate? The handbook says 0.8 - 0.9 millimeters. I was thinking of going a little larger, maybe 0.933. What do you fellows think?

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:44 pm
by Herb
If you are running stock plugs, I would stick with the 0.8-0.9mm. These don't have the strongest ignition spark to start with and too wide a gap can cause a misfire issue.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:34 pm
by JamesC
What about fuel? Any difference between brands? I was going to gap a little more because I run premium. I know the handbook says 87 octane, but all my biker buddies go with the premium for some reason.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:26 pm
by Lechy
Intruders are low compression and do not need the higher octane. It won't run any better so why throw away money.

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Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:03 am
by Leckbass
Lechy wrote:Intruders are low compression and do not need the higher octane. It won't run any better so why throw away money.

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Exactly

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:56 am
by navigator
Your bike will run a lot better with 87 octane and .035 gap.
Pull the chrome head cover off for better access.
Don't forget to blow away any debris with compressed air before you pull the plugs.
A piece of 5/16 fuel line slipped over the plug will aid in installation, without cross-threading the hole.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:02 am
by WintrSol
JamesC wrote:What about fuel? Any difference between brands? I was going to gap a little more because I run premium. I know the handbook says 87 octane, but all my biker buddies go with the premium for some reason.
It will run best on 87, 89 will do in a pinch. Even better is to check out https://www.pure-gas.org/, your engine will love you for it, even if you can only get higher octane.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:58 pm
by JamesC
Okay, so I replaced my plugs yesterday. The front one was relatively clean, but the rear one, which was loose; was black with soot. Having the original Suzuki Spark Plug tool made all the difference. I was able to easily snug them down nice and tight, using "Never Cease" on the threads. She runs like a champ again. I don't know what you guys who don't have that tool use, but the 18mm deep socket by Craftsmen for 3/8ths drive does not work very well. You can snug them down, but then the socket gets stuck on the plug, and I wind up backing off to get it out. Anyway, I went for a nice ride and all is well again. Thanks.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:36 am
by keges335
I always ran NGK Iridium in my Intruder 800 and when I got my1400 did so as well. But beause I watch NHRA and always see the commercial ,.What Are You Running ,. Decided to try a set of E3s,. Didnt seem to like those,. So going back to the NGKs., :putput:

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:53 am
by WintrSol
keges335 wrote:I always ran NGK Iridium in my Intruder 800 and when I got my1400 did so as well. But beause I watch NHRA and always see the commercial ,.What Are You Running ,. Decided to try a set of E3s,. Didnt seem to like those,. So going back to the NGKs., :putput:
I tried E3s once, installed them in my Fiero just before the emissions test - it failed badly. Put in platinum plugs (iridium not out then), and sailed through the test. I view all of those 'fire injector' plugs as snake oil, too.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:17 pm
by franktiregod
I run the NGKS Iridiums too and have for years. They work great. When people ask why I run them i say because I like to say iridium. [emoji2]

As for fuel, use 87. You dont need premium. Its an advantage of your intruder so enjoy the savings.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:58 am
by JamesC
I had the iridiums installed, but I didn't notice any difference. I went back to the regular plugs and she runs just fine.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:09 am
by Herb
JamesC wrote:I had the iridiums installed, but I didn't notice any difference. I went back to the regular plugs and she runs just fine.
I used to run the regular plugs, replacing them every 12-15,000 miles. Then I switched to the iridiums and the bike is still running good with over 28,000 miles on the plugs. Pulled them at 15,000 and the gap was still perfect, didn't even need gapping. On top of that it starts easier in below 40 conditions.

Re: Spark Plugs

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:52 am
by WintrSol
Herb wrote:
JamesC wrote:I had the iridiums installed, but I didn't notice any difference. I went back to the regular plugs and she runs just fine.
I used to run the regular plugs, replacing them every 12-15,000 miles. Then I switched to the iridiums and the bike is still running good with over 28,000 miles on the plugs. Pulled them at 15,000 and the gap was still perfect, didn't even need gapping. On top of that it starts easier in below 40 conditions.
This is why most (if not all) auto OEMs are iridium now; the EPA requires them to go something like 50,000 without failing emissions, and these plugs last. I put them in my '70 CB450 engine, a really cold-hearted beast, and it starts much sooner in cool weather; I assume it's because of the extra fine tip, making a relatively weak spark effectively stronger.