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Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:43 am
by Justwannacruz
Hey everyone, I have a 2004 VL1500LC that I purchased last week in pretty rough shape. Can someone share a pic of their fuse box? The previous owner rewired mine & im having trouble sorting it out using the wiring diagram
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:44 pm
by Herb
Welcome aboard.
Glad to have another intruder rider. Please keep us updated on the progress. Pictures are great to have.
Go here for manuals for all of the intruder manuals.
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14168
here is another thread that might help you also.
viewforum.php?f=37
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:59 pm
by hillsy v2
Online manual for the LC is here:
http://www.crowitis.com/mamba/LCService ... -index.htm
It's for a 99 but they didn't change much until the C90. Wiring will be the same.
Lots of other good info here as well:
https://www.moccsplace.com/
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:19 pm
by Justwannacruz
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:25 pm
by Justwannacruz
Soooo by using the manual, I saw that there was an O/Y wire going from the missing space in the back of the fuse box belonging to the side stand relay that connects to the O/Y wire for the ignition fuse. I adding a jumper wire and now the wires for the decomp solenoid smokes whenever the ignition is on. Did I wire it correctly? If so, why would the decomp solenoid wires start smoking? Also, even with that jumper wire connected the bike still won’t start. Clutch & kickstand switch have both been bypassed with no success on starting the engine. I tried jumping the relay when I first got it and the starter would turn over but bike wouldn’t start. I’m thinking I need a new wiring harness
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:43 pm
by FallenAngel
Justwannacruz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:25 pm
Soooo by using the manual, I saw that there was an O/Y wire going from the missing space in the back of the fuse box belonging to the side stand relay that connects to the O/Y wire for the ignition fuse. I adding a jumper wire and now the wires for the decomp solenoid smokes whenever the ignition is on. Did I wire it correctly? If so, why would the decomp solenoid wires start smoking? Also, even with that jumper wire connected the bike still won’t start. Clutch & kickstand switch have both been bypassed with no success on starting the engine. I tried jumping the relay when I first got it and the starter would turn over but bike wouldn’t start. I’m thinking I need a new wiring harness
Oh Man
I feel your pain
You may have a live short in your de=comp solenoid
You may have wired the power wire to a circuit that is drawing power through the solenoid
With the key on do you have power to your coils?
Does your fuel pump come on?
Does your headlight come on and do you have flashers and or turn signals
Can you engage the starter with the starter button
Try to sort out one circuit at a time
You mentioned you added a jumper wire??
What is the jumper wire for??
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:48 am
by Justwannacruz
I’m starting to regret purchasing the bike lol. With the key on 1. I do have power to the coils.
2. but ever since I’ve had the bike(2weeks now) the fuel pump has never came on when the ignition was switched. I pulled a spare fuel pump and wired it in & it wouldn’t work unless I put 12v directly to the wire. When putting 12v to the factory pump it was not operating correctly so I have a new one otw & I know that circuit isn’t getting power somewhere..
3. The headlights & blinkers all work.
4. I cannot engage the starter using the start button. I’ve tried jumping the clutch and kickstand but that didn’t work either.
5. When I purchased the bike the guy said that it only needed the side stand/cutoff relay that’s in the fuse box. When I turned the fuse box over there was a missing wire. The wire diagram showed that there was an O/Y wire that was there originally there that connected to ignition fuse. So I added the jumper wire lol. I have a new to me wire harness with fuse box, starter relay, killswitch, fuel and side stand relay otw. Sooo hopefully that fixes EVERYTHING if not then I’ll be posting it for parts lmao
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:59 am
by FallenAngel
Justwannacruz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:48 am
I’m starting to regret purchasing the bike lol. With the key on 1. I do have power to the coils.
2. but ever since I’ve had the bike(2weeks now) the fuel pump has never came on when the ignition was switched. I pulled a spare fuel pump and wired it in & it wouldn’t work unless I put 12v directly to the wire. When putting 12v to the factory pump it was not operating correctly so I have a new one otw & I know that circuit isn’t getting power somewhere..
3. The headlights & blinkers all work.
4. I cannot engage the starter using the start button. I’ve tried jumping the clutch and kickstand but that didn’t work either.
5. When I purchased the bike the guy said that it only needed the side stand/cutoff relay that’s in the fuse box. When I turned the fuse box over there was a missing wire. The wire diagram showed that there was an O/Y wire that was there originally there that connected to ignition fuse. So I added the jumper wire lol. I have a new to me wire harness with fuse box, starter relay, killswitch, fuel and side stand relay otw. Sooo hopefully that fixes EVERYTHING if not then I’ll be posting it for parts lmao
That head lights and blinkers are a very good sigh
You mentioned the the de=comp solenoid wires smoke with the key on
Disconnect it
You havnt been able to engage the starter using the stater switch and your pump isnt working
I may be mistaken but I think these two circuits are connected
You use the starter switch to prime the fuel pump
with the kickstand down trans in neutral clutch engaged you prime the pump by pressing the starter switch
Do you have power at the starter switch with the key on
Again disconnect the jumper wire you installed
concentrate on one circuit at a time and make a note of the wires on a peace of paper
Color code schematics can sometimes be wrong
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:23 am
by Justwannacruz
I’m backkkkk & still having the same issues lol. I got the new to me wire harness installed, new kickstand/cutoff relay installed, new starter relay, & I purchased some aftermarket handlebar switches and rewired them to fit the original headlight & ignition plugs. Prior to doing all of this whenever I would switch the key on, the headlight would come on but no neutral switch on the cluster. But now the neutral switch is working properly! However, with the key on, headlights on, pressing the starter button w the clutch in & kickstand up or down there is now power at the NEW starter relay!?!? What am I missing??? Could it be the stator & generator assembly? I saw that on another forum that those items could cause this no start issue.
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:37 pm
by hillsy v2
Do you have the clutch switch connected or bypassed? Won't crank if that's not sorted.
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm
by Justwannacruz
I have the clutch and kickstand switch both bypassed to guarantee that they’ll work but still no start
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:27 pm
by hillsy v2
Justwannacruz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm
I have the clutch and kickstand switch both bypassed to guarantee that they’ll work but still no start
Connected each pair of wires? Haven't just pulled the switch plugs?
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:56 pm
by Justwannacruz
I used jumper wires & unplugged them both
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 1:31 pm
by FallenAngel
Justwannacruz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm
I have the clutch and kickstand switch both bypassed to guarantee that they’ll work but still no start
Locate your starter solenoid it may look something like this
one cable is connected to the battery and should have power the other goes to the starter and will be energized when the starter switch is pressed
the small wire is energized when the stater switch is pressed
you should have power to one of the large posts
the small post will have power when the starter button is pressed and you should have power to the other large post
You can check the starter signal at the small connection with a test light
And test the solenoid by jumping the small connection with a jumper from the positive side of the battery
All safety will be bypassed so make sure your bike is in neutral
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:03 am
by Suzuki Johnny
Welcome to the board.
Ride Safe and Post often
Re: Helppppp 2004 VL1500LC
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:32 pm
by hillsy v2
Starter relay is under the LHS fake tank cover - towards the front. It has a main fuse (40 amp I think).
Looks like this:
