DIFFERENT VIEWS ON ELECTRIC CARS

[Suzuki Johnny]

For those who want that Tesla or that electric car. Here is a bill to replace your battery if ever needed.

[Herb]

If this isn't the stupiest thing I have ever heard of it is a close second...

https://conservativeundergroundnews.com ... m_content=

...One of his top priorities is to eliminate the use of fossil fuels as a source of power in transportation.

Biden wants half of all new vehicles sold in the U.S. to be electric by the year 2030.

The Biden regime is poised to cripple the U.S. military by giving them an even more ridiculous standard to comply with by the same year.

During recent Congressional testimony, Department of Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm revealed that she wants the military to exclusively use electric-powered vehicles by the year 2030.

Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) asked Granholm during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing if she supported the plan for the military to have an all “EV fleet by 2030.”

“I do, and I think we can get there, as well,” Granholm said....

[Designer]

Here's why these things are NOT tghe way of the future;

Electric Car Starts Shaking And Then Bursts Into Flames On The Highway
• by: Cassie Cole 5/09/2023

A resident from Elk Grove narrowly escaped a life-threatening incident when his Tesla erupted in flames while he was driving on Saturday.

The victim, Bishal Malla, expressed gratitude for surviving the terrifying ordeal. Malla reported that he had been running errands nearby and was preparing to enter Highway 99 when he felt his car begin to shake. Assuming it was a flat tire, he proceeded to investigate, but upon opening the door, he was met with smoke emanating from the vehicle's undercarriage.

KCRA reported that Malla said he had seen reports about Tesla fires, so he quickly got out of the vehicle and called 911.
The smoke, he said, quickly turned into large flames. He said he was acutely aware, however, of the two empty car seats in the back.

“I was about to go home, take the family and the kids, and go to a party,” he said.

Malla said it was hard not to wonder how this could have been different if his family had been in the vehicle at the time of the fire, remembering the extra minutes it takes to get the children out of their seats.
“I’m just speechless right now,” he said.

Battalion Chief Robert Kasparian, of the Cosumnes Fire Department, said the best practice right now for firefighters battling an electric vehicle fire is to let it burn.

“The issue with the electric vehicles is access to the batteries,” he said. “The batteries are what are causing the enormous amount of heat buildup. A lot of times fire departments will just let the vehicle burn until it’s down to the point where they can actually access the batteries and put water or firefighting foam on the batteries themselves.”

He said that the department seemed to have seen an increase in electric vehicle fires, adding that they can be challenging for first responders. He said electric vehicle fires often require longer response times, a lot of water, and additional resources to watch the vehicle to ensure the fire doesn’t reignite after the vehicle is towed away.

This sounds truly terrifying and it really makes you question the safety of electric vehicles.

[Herb]

"This sounds truly terrifying and it really makes you question the safety of electric vehicles."

Now there is a DNO SHIT statement!!!

The "safety" gurus threw fits about cars catching fire in collisions, even to the point of using incindary devices to fake the "unsafe" gas tanks on Chevy pickups. Yet these POS junkers catch fire for no reason and it is crickets.

If it were once in a great while event it would be no big deal, but this shit is happening way more often than the number of the things out there should indicate.

[Designer]

"This sounds truly terrifying and it really makes you question the safety of electric vehicles." Now there is a NO SHIT statement!!!

The "safety" gurus threw fits about cars catching fire in collisions, even to the point of using incindary devices to fake the "unsafe" gas tanks on Chevy pickups. Yet these POS junkers catch fire for no reason and it is crickets.:space:f it were once in a great while event it would be no big deal, but this shit is happening way more often than the number of the things out there should indicate.

No foolin' Herb! these sucking things are seriously dangerous HORRORS! Here's more about what JINK the\ses damn things really are;
Fire Hazard: Norweigen Shipping Company First to Ban Electric Cars on Ferries
Amy Mek January 20, 2023

A Norwegian shipping company bans electric cars on its ferries. According to a risk analysis, such vehicles’ fire risk is too significant. An ocean liner had recently sunk because of it.

The Norwegian shipping company, Havila Kystruten, has banned electric, hybrid, and hydrogen cars from its ferries. After a risk analysis, it was concluded that the risk to the safety of the shipping fleet was too significant. If a vehicle catches fire, the fire can no longer be extinguished.

The risks for ships from the transport of Electric cars (EV) have been discussed since the “Felicity Ace” sank off the Azores, Portugal, last February. E-vehicles on board had caught fire. The fire could not be extinguished. Finally, the colossal ship sank with thousands of electric cars, including Porsche and Bentley “green” vehicles.

Capt. Rahul Khanna, global head of marine consulting at Allianz (AGCS), a marine insurance specialist, explains that the problem with EVs is that lithium-ion batteries in the cars can actually propagate the fire, igniting more vigorously as compared to conventional cars. A single vehicle fire could prove catastrophic.

E-cars are a danger for ship passengers. According to a report by the TradeWinds shipping news service, Havila’s Chief executive Bent Martini said the risk analysis showed that the fire in an electric car required a particularly complex rescue operation. The crew on board could not afford this. Passengers would also be at risk. This is different for vehicles with combustion engines. A possible fire is usually easy to fight by the ship’s crew.

After the sinking of the “Felicity Ace,” Greenpeace also warned against e-cars on ships: “In general, electronic components and especially electric vehicles pose a risk for every transport.”

[Herb]

https://bluestatebluesnews.com/the-bide ... urce=bsbnl

Democrats made a lot of outrageous promises to get themselves elected over the past decade.

They’ve painted themselves into a corner and the infighting is getting vicious.

And the Biden administration just took out Gavin Newsom’s achilles heel but it’s the middle class that could get destroyed.

Last year California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law banning the sale of gasoline engines in the Golden State by 2035.

Only days later, state employees were asking citizens to refrain from charging their electric cars and limit their use of AC due to the electrical grid becoming overwhelmed.

Considering their supposed shared goals, you’d think the next move for Democrats would be to strengthen the electrical grid.

Instead, Joe Biden is doing his level best to kneecap the existing power infrastructure....

[RoadKing]

The market will decide. It always does. Allow me to use Harley Davidson motorcycles for an example. Harley dealers as well as independent shops are buying or taking as trade-ins formerly owned bikes and when they sell the restored bikes they look and perform in nearly new conditions but at a much lower cost than new bikes with high cost EPA requirements. For now, the higher cost of new Harleys has not impeded sales so both new and used bikes are moving out the door. However, PanAms, the “new” Sportsters, and the Ebikes continue with slow sales. In fact, retro models such as the brand new retro ElectraGlides are doing quite well. Harley is one “discretionary” product that is doing quite well.

Look for this trend in the automotive market as well. Autos and trucks do not fit the label “discretionary” but are rather a necessity in every day life so the importance of sales on well taken care of trade-ins will be even more important.

I predict that Biden’s folly will be a flop sooner rather than later so quit your hand wringing. And get a Harley!

Another valuable business public service announcement from your very own RK. You’re welcomed.

[DevilsFan]

The market will decide. It always does. Allow me to use Harley Davidson motorcycles for an example. Harley dealers as well as independent shops are buying or taking as trade-ins formerly owned bikes and when they sell the restored bikes they look and perform in nearly new conditions but at a much lower cost than new bikes with high cost EPA requirements. For now, the higher cost of new Harleys has not impeded sales so both new and used bikes are moving out the door. However, PanAms, the “new” Sportsters, and the Ebikes continue with slow sales. In fact, retro models such as the brand new retro ElectraGlides are doing quite well. Harley is one “discretionary” product that is doing quite well.

Look for this trend in the automotive market as well. Autos and trucks do not fit the label “discretionary” but are rather a necessity in every day life so the importance of sales on well taken care of trade-ins will be even more important.

I predict that Biden’s folly will be a flop sooner rather than later so quit your hand wringing. And get a Harley!

Another valuable business public service announcement from your very own RK. You’re welcomed.

Off topic but...Harley's New Dealership is opening up this weekend in Wesley Chapel, FL. Come on down for the event!

[RoadKing]

The market will decide. It always does. Allow me to use Harley Davidson motorcycles for an example. Harley dealers as well as independent shops are buying or taking as trade-ins formerly owned bikes and when they sell the restored bikes they look and perform in nearly new conditions but at a much lower cost than new bikes with high cost EPA requirements. For now, the higher cost of new Harleys has not impeded sales so both new and used bikes are moving out the door. However, PanAms, the “new” Sportsters, and the Ebikes continue with slow sales. In fact, retro models such as the brand new retro ElectraGlides are doing quite well. Harley is one “discretionary” product that is doing quite well.

Look for this trend in the automotive market as well. Autos and trucks do not fit the label “discretionary” but are rather a necessity in every day life so the importance of sales on well taken care of trade-ins will be even more important.

I predict that Biden’s folly will be a flop sooner rather than later so quit your hand wringing. And get a Harley!

Another valuable business public service announcement from your very own RK. You’re welcomed.

Off topic but...Harley's New Dealership is opening up this weekend in Wesley Chapel, FL. Come on down for the event!

Would love to join you. But keeping my fingers crossed and saying a prayer that I’m closing in on a hip replacement date.

[Designer]

These sucking things ..ARE JUNK!! And this dude found out the hard way!


Electric vehicle driver is shocked by $42,000 bill after minor fender bender
by Heather Hamilton, May 05, 2023

An Ohio owner of a Rivian electric truck said he had “no idea” how challenging it would be to get his electric vehicle fixed following a fender bender.

Chris Apfelstadt shared on a Rivian Facebook group that his electric truck was rear-ended at a low speed. After waiting 2 1/2 months for a Rivian-certified repair shop to disassemble the back end and restore it to like-new condition, he said he was shocked to learn the final bill totaled to $42,000.

“I have heard that Rivian made some concessions in the repairability in order to keep the aesthetics a certain way,” Apfelstadt commented. “All I know is that this is a very expensive vehicle to fix!”

Those who came across Apfelstadt’s story questioned the integrity of the repair and its cost. However, experts have said the high costs to repair EVs often cause insurance companies to total the cars instead of making the repairs, especially if a battery pack is damaged.

"We're buying electric cars for sustainability reasons," said Matthew Avery of Thatcham Research, an automotive risk intelligence company. "But an EV isn't very sustainable if you've got to throw the battery away after a minor collision."

The starting price for a Rivian R1T electric truck is $73,000.

[Suzuki Johnny]

[Herb]

https://libertyunlocked.com/jaguar-reca ... ous-fires/

[Designer]

https://libertyunlocked.com/jaguar-reca ... ous-fires/

Yep, Herb. Here's more on these,..."save the world"...POS sucking contraptions!

Buy a car,...Burn your house down!


‘Charge Outdoors:’ Jaguar Recalls All I-Pace EVs in the US over Battery Fire Risk

LUCAS NOLAN 5 Jun 2023

Automaker Jaguar has announced a comprehensive recall of all its I-Pace electric vehicles in the United States, citing a potential risk of battery fires. The company is also advising customers to park outside until repairs are made and charge their vehicles outdoors so they don’t burn their houses down.

Electrek reports that Jaguar has announced a broad recall of all of its I-Pace electric vehicles in the United States due to a potential risk of battery fires. This action was taken in response to worries expressed regarding a potential battery problem resembling the one that forced a previous recall of the Chevy Bolt EV. Jaguar is advising customers to park and charge their vehicles outside due to the fire risk until repairs are completed.

Breitbart News reported on a Jaguar EV fire in 2022 that caught fire while charging in its owner’s home:

The Florida-based electric car owner, Gonzalo Salazar, told the outlet that he had purchased a brand new 2019 Jaguar I-Pace in 2020, and was driving the vehicle without issues for a few years, until one day the car caught fire in his garage, after having been charging for the night.

“On June 16, I plugged the car in before going to bed,” Salazar said. “In the morning of June 17, I woke up and unplugged the car. Later that morning, I set out to run some errands. I drove about 12 miles that morning before returning back home and parking the car back in the garage, leaving the garage door open.”

“As I was doing things at home, I heard pops coming from the garage,” he added. “I decided to go see where the sounds were coming from, and upon walking into the garage, I faced a thick wall of smoke. My thought immediately was, ‘When there is smoke there is fire,’ and I need to get the car out of the house garage.”

Concerns were first expressed in the wake of four separate I-Pace battery fires, which were eerily similar to the fires that prompted the recall of Chevy Bolt EV vehicles. Both cars use LG Energy battery cells, which were found to be the cause of the issue in the Bolt EV case.

“Recalled vehicles will receive an update to the Battery Energy Control Module (BECM) software that will monitor the battery pack assembly operational status that indicates where the battery contains conditions which may lead to thermal overload condition,” the recall notice explained.
The affected battery module or pack will, if necessary, be replaced at no cost, according to the automaker. Some people, however, are disappointed by the news because they think Jaguar could have avoided some fires if they had addressed the problem sooner.

[Herb]

EV, on fire in the garage. How do you get it out of the garage???

[Designer]

EV, on fire in the garage. How do you get it out of the garage???

If it's on fire, .....easiest way? I'm guessing.... ....Move the house!

[Herb]

[Herb]

Range Liar?

https://www.deplorabledaily.com/fords-e ... m_content=

[Herb]

https://www.wethepeopledaily.com/2023/0 ... thousands/

...Unbelievable. Ford jumped on the left’s “green” bandwagon and dumped billions into producing EVs. But they didn’t look before they leaped and now they stand to lose $3 billion on their electric cars.

This will force the company to lay off more than 1,000 employees, as they scramble to cut costs. Maybe if they just made cars people were buying, they wouldn’t have to leave 1,000 families searching to make ends meet.

No part of Joe Biden’s green dream has actually worked out. States that rushed to build wind turbines off the coast have ended up killing marine life. Americans have been forced to buy energy from foreign nations, which has only helped the likes of Saudi Arabia and China.

But it’s only going to get worse. Biden is pushing radical policies that will make most cars on the road illegal in just a few years. States are pushing new taxes and fees, to make up for the loss of gas revenue. In a short time, Americans might not even be able to afford riding the bus.

Is that what Biden meant when he said he wanted to “finish the job”?

[HARRIS]

HE JUST CARRYING OUT WHAT HIS HANDLERS DIRECT. IT'S ALL OBOMA'S PLAN ...

[Herb]

If people want EVs... consumers should not be forced to buy them just so the woke left-wing outrage mob can feel better about their delusions.

https://patriotpulse.net/alexandria-oca ... nt#gf_4574

...Despite these facts, Democrats are still pushing the Green New Deal, only now they’re trying to be more creative by breaking it up into pieces they bury in other pieces of legislation in order to make it the law of the land without ever having to actually pass the Green New Deal itself.

But the facts of life just keep getting in their way.

According to a new study conducted by the University of Leeds, electric trucks cause twice as much damage to roads as gas-powered trucks.

The University’s study found that the average electric vehicle (EV) puts 2.24-times more stress on roadways than the average gas-powered vehicle, and 1.95 times more than a diesel-powered vehicle.

Larger EVs, like trucks, can cause up to 2.32 times as much damage.

Over time, the stress on the roads leads to small cracks in the asphalt, which can grow into potholes, and require more heavy machinery to fix.

Obviously, the reason EVs are putting more stress on the roads is because they currently weigh more than gas-powered vehicles, due to the number of lithium-ion batteries needed to power them hundreds of miles under current technological restrictions....

...Of course, there is also still a major elephant in the room regarding the fact that EVs have larger carbon footprints than gas-powered vehicles due to the heavy machinery and mining required to produce their components.

On top of that, the electrical grid in most states cannot handle the current demand for electricity, much less the amount of electricity needed to power an EV for every American driver.

If people want EVs, they should obviously be able to buy them, but consumers should not be forced to buy them just so the woke left-wing outrage mob can feel better about their delusions.