AN UNCONSTITUTIOMAL ORDER FOR OUR MILITARY????
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AN UNCONSTITUTIOMAL ORDER FOR OUR MILITARY????
An Unconstitutional Order for Our Military
Ordering the US military to participate in an operation that unconstitutionally allows illegal immigrants entry into America is flat-out wrong.
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MAY 3
The Trump administration Title 42 order comes to an end next week. Its purpose was to restrict illegal immigration from areas highly affected by the COVID virus. It is the last remaining Trump administration policy that curtailed wanton illegal immigration, primarily, along our southern border. The Biden administration has already discarded the successful “remain in Mexico” policy. Last year we experienced a record invasion of illegal immigrants into these United States, some 2.3 million. All estimates put us on track to exceed that record number this year.
Recently, I was down on the border for four days in Kinney County, Texas. Every law enforcement official I spoke with realizes the impending danger of the end of Title 42. Right now you can see the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants stacking up south of our border in preparation for the lifting of this policy. The city of El Paso has declared an emergency ahead of the Title 42 end. Joe Biden has announced the deployment of some 1,500 active duty US military troops to the border for a duration of 90 days to backfill the US Border Patrol. The problem with this deployment order coming from Biden is that it is unconstitutional, an unlawful order from the Commander-in-Chief.
Let me explain.
Members of our military take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign, and domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same. The US Constitution, our rule of law, clearly states in Article IV, Section 4 “the guarantee clause,” that the federal government has the enumerated responsibility to protect every state in the Union from invasion. There can be no debate that our Constitutional Republic is facing a massive invasion of illegal immigrants, and it has had a detrimental consequences for drug, human, and sex trafficking. As we have articulated here previously, the Biden administration is in violation of the US Constitution with their open border leftist policy agenda . . . a high crime and misdemeanor, a treasonous offense, subverting the sovereignty of these United States.
Now, the Biden administration is ordering our US military to violate their oath and support an unconstitutional ideological agenda, enabling the erosion of our sovereign border and security. Biden is ordering our military to assume duties for which they are not bound to fill, conducting administrative support to USBP. It is supposed to stand for United States Border Patrol, not border processing. Tasking our military to conduct mundane and unconstitutional tasks such as being bus drivers and setting up processing centers does not align with their mission.
Biden issued an unconstitutional, unlawful, immoral, and unethical order to our military to take a shot of an emergency use authorization serum, which has had some disconcerting medical affects. He is now abusing his position as Commander in Chief of our military to force them into supporting his progressive socialist leftist political agenda, open borders.
If Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issues this deployment order, he should be impeached. If Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, supports executes this deployment order, he should be forced to resign. Our men and women in the US military have every constitutional standing to refuse this order and not deploy. If this goes through, then the precedent, ramifications, of using the military for political agendas has been determined. There is an incredible danger in this; who is to say how a future Commander in Chief can abuse our military for their ideological gains and purposes? Hence is the reason why our Founding Fathers were not keen on standing armies, and trusted the militia, which was the people. And now we have the progressive socialist left attempting to disarm the American people. What next, order the military to subjugate us?
Ordering the US military to participate in an operation that unconstitutionally allows illegal immigrants entry into America is flat-out wrong. Trust me, I have witnessed our very own Texas National Guard troops aiding and enabling illegal immigrants entry into our Republic, being it Texas and America.
We are taught as Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines that we have the right to refusal of any order that is unlawful. This directive from Joe Biden to deploy US military troops to further the invasion of illegal immigrants is indeed unlawful, unconstitutional. Our troops have the right of refusal to deploy, just as our US Border Patrol agents who are charged with protecting our border have right of refusal.
And we wonder why recruitment and retention in our Armed Forces is lagging?
Steadfast and Loyal.
Ordering the US military to participate in an operation that unconstitutionally allows illegal immigrants entry into America is flat-out wrong.
ALLEN WEST
MAY 3
The Trump administration Title 42 order comes to an end next week. Its purpose was to restrict illegal immigration from areas highly affected by the COVID virus. It is the last remaining Trump administration policy that curtailed wanton illegal immigration, primarily, along our southern border. The Biden administration has already discarded the successful “remain in Mexico” policy. Last year we experienced a record invasion of illegal immigrants into these United States, some 2.3 million. All estimates put us on track to exceed that record number this year.
Recently, I was down on the border for four days in Kinney County, Texas. Every law enforcement official I spoke with realizes the impending danger of the end of Title 42. Right now you can see the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants stacking up south of our border in preparation for the lifting of this policy. The city of El Paso has declared an emergency ahead of the Title 42 end. Joe Biden has announced the deployment of some 1,500 active duty US military troops to the border for a duration of 90 days to backfill the US Border Patrol. The problem with this deployment order coming from Biden is that it is unconstitutional, an unlawful order from the Commander-in-Chief.
Let me explain.
Members of our military take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign, and domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same. The US Constitution, our rule of law, clearly states in Article IV, Section 4 “the guarantee clause,” that the federal government has the enumerated responsibility to protect every state in the Union from invasion. There can be no debate that our Constitutional Republic is facing a massive invasion of illegal immigrants, and it has had a detrimental consequences for drug, human, and sex trafficking. As we have articulated here previously, the Biden administration is in violation of the US Constitution with their open border leftist policy agenda . . . a high crime and misdemeanor, a treasonous offense, subverting the sovereignty of these United States.
Now, the Biden administration is ordering our US military to violate their oath and support an unconstitutional ideological agenda, enabling the erosion of our sovereign border and security. Biden is ordering our military to assume duties for which they are not bound to fill, conducting administrative support to USBP. It is supposed to stand for United States Border Patrol, not border processing. Tasking our military to conduct mundane and unconstitutional tasks such as being bus drivers and setting up processing centers does not align with their mission.
Biden issued an unconstitutional, unlawful, immoral, and unethical order to our military to take a shot of an emergency use authorization serum, which has had some disconcerting medical affects. He is now abusing his position as Commander in Chief of our military to force them into supporting his progressive socialist leftist political agenda, open borders.
If Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issues this deployment order, he should be impeached. If Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, supports executes this deployment order, he should be forced to resign. Our men and women in the US military have every constitutional standing to refuse this order and not deploy. If this goes through, then the precedent, ramifications, of using the military for political agendas has been determined. There is an incredible danger in this; who is to say how a future Commander in Chief can abuse our military for their ideological gains and purposes? Hence is the reason why our Founding Fathers were not keen on standing armies, and trusted the militia, which was the people. And now we have the progressive socialist left attempting to disarm the American people. What next, order the military to subjugate us?
Ordering the US military to participate in an operation that unconstitutionally allows illegal immigrants entry into America is flat-out wrong. Trust me, I have witnessed our very own Texas National Guard troops aiding and enabling illegal immigrants entry into our Republic, being it Texas and America.
We are taught as Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines that we have the right to refusal of any order that is unlawful. This directive from Joe Biden to deploy US military troops to further the invasion of illegal immigrants is indeed unlawful, unconstitutional. Our troops have the right of refusal to deploy, just as our US Border Patrol agents who are charged with protecting our border have right of refusal.
And we wonder why recruitment and retention in our Armed Forces is lagging?
Steadfast and Loyal.
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This is not what our military is trained to do and I do not support moving our troops to the border now or when Trump wanted to do it. I also don't support Gavin Newsome sending National Guard to San Francisco to stop the Drug/Homeless problem.
The biggest issue I have is not the troops going but but what protections do they have? What happens when a young Soldier gets into a situation with a illegal alien or a drug fueled homeless guy and that Soldier makes a choice that may not be the best one. I'll tell you what is going to happen the Biden administration is going to ruin that guys life and career. This BS happens all the time when our troops are sent to do a job that's not really their job. The basic job of the military is "to close with and destroy the enemy" not make people feel better. For those of you that remember Hurricane Katrina there are some side stories to that mission that were never really told. The 82nd was sent troops and they got involved with the looting prevention thing and had a few run ins with the locals. Most of the 82nd guys were just back from Iraq and they did some things in NOLA that ended their careers, but they would have been awarded for the same action in Iraq. The 82nd should have never been in NOLA, just like troops shouldn't be on the boarder now.
The biggest issue I have is not the troops going but but what protections do they have? What happens when a young Soldier gets into a situation with a illegal alien or a drug fueled homeless guy and that Soldier makes a choice that may not be the best one. I'll tell you what is going to happen the Biden administration is going to ruin that guys life and career. This BS happens all the time when our troops are sent to do a job that's not really their job. The basic job of the military is "to close with and destroy the enemy" not make people feel better. For those of you that remember Hurricane Katrina there are some side stories to that mission that were never really told. The 82nd was sent troops and they got involved with the looting prevention thing and had a few run ins with the locals. Most of the 82nd guys were just back from Iraq and they did some things in NOLA that ended their careers, but they would have been awarded for the same action in Iraq. The 82nd should have never been in NOLA, just like troops shouldn't be on the boarder now.
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AND WHEN THEY GO IN, THEY HAVE UNLOADED WEAPONS. THEY ARE SENT IN HARM'S WAY, DEFENSELESS!
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If they were sent to PROTECT the border it would be a different situation...
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I guess the mission of our military must have changed? I was of the understanding that the military s purpose is national defense. Correct me if I am wrong.
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So they are sending 1500 troops to the border but STILL you guys can somehow find something wrong about that.
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Yes, it is simply not the job of the military. There are some parts of the military that may have the skill set to function on the border but most do not have the required training. Sending 1500 troops to the border is a broad statement since they do not say what type of troops. Who in the military would be best suited? For paroling the border you would need Infantry but their main function is to "close with and destroy the enemy", also know as "kill people and break things". You could send MPs but they are more suited for the actual arresting part or detainment. Either way they do not have the training or protections afforded the border patrol. In the end someone is going to unknowingly do something that they shouldn't and it will destroy their life. Biden should have done his job from the beginning and we wouldn't have this issue.
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They use the military in disaster and humanitarian relief - is that unconstitutional as well?sgtcall wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:03 pmYes, it is simply not the job of the military. There are some parts of the military that may have the skill set to function on the border but most do not have the required training. Sending 1500 troops to the border is a broad statement since they do not say what type of troops. Who in the military would be best suited? For paroling the border you would need Infantry but their main function is to "close with and destroy the enemy", also know as "kill people and break things". You could send MPs but they are more suited for the actual arresting part or detainment. Either way they do not have the training or protections afforded the border patrol. In the end someone is going to unknowingly do something that they shouldn't and it will destroy their life. Biden should have done his job from the beginning and we wouldn't have this issue.
Seriously - if Trump ordered this you'd call him a hero.
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The real issue is what they are being sent there to do.
They are NOT there to keep people out of the country they are to assist the BP with letting the people in. That is not the job of the military.
As sgtcall stated, they are meant and trained to kill people and break things.
They are NOT there to keep people out of the country they are to assist the BP with letting the people in. That is not the job of the military.
As sgtcall stated, they are meant and trained to kill people and break things.
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KILL PEOPLE AND BREAK THINGS
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Within the country disaster and humanitarian relief are missions for the National Guard, it takes congressional approval to Regular military to conduct missions within our borders.hillsy v2 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:36 pmThey use the military in disaster and humanitarian relief - is that unconstitutional as well?sgtcall wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:03 pmYes, it is simply not the job of the military. There are some parts of the military that may have the skill set to function on the border but most do not have the required training. Sending 1500 troops to the border is a broad statement since they do not say what type of troops. Who in the military would be best suited? For paroling the border you would need Infantry but their main function is to "close with and destroy the enemy", also know as "kill people and break things". You could send MPs but they are more suited for the actual arresting part or detainment. Either way they do not have the training or protections afforded the border patrol. In the end someone is going to unknowingly do something that they shouldn't and it will destroy their life. Biden should have done his job from the beginning and we wouldn't have this issue.
Seriously - if Trump ordered this you'd call him a hero.
Trump tried to send troops and I didn't agree with it then either.
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It's the unofficial Infantry motto, the real one is "Queen of Battle, Follow Me".
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I didn't totally agree with Trump on that either, HOWEVER, he did intend to use them to help control (protect) the border. Protection of the US is part of the military mission. The problem I have is that the way he wanted to use them would have created EXACTLY the problem you talked about.sgtcall wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 8:49 pmWithin the country disaster and humanitarian relief are missions for the National Guard, it takes congressional approval to Regular military to conduct missions within our borders.hillsy v2 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:36 pmThey use the military in disaster and humanitarian relief - is that unconstitutional as well?sgtcall wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:03 pmYes, it is simply not the job of the military. There are some parts of the military that may have the skill set to function on the border but most do not have the required training. Sending 1500 troops to the border is a broad statement since they do not say what type of troops. Who in the military would be best suited? For paroling the border you would need Infantry but their main function is to "close with and destroy the enemy", also know as "kill people and break things". You could send MPs but they are more suited for the actual arresting part or detainment. Either way they do not have the training or protections afforded the border patrol. In the end someone is going to unknowingly do something that they shouldn't and it will destroy their life. Biden should have done his job from the beginning and we wouldn't have this issue.
Seriously - if Trump ordered this you'd call him a hero.
Trump tried to send troops and I didn't agree with it then either.
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I agree with Allen West on this topic.....Why not send those newly hired armed 87 thousand IRS agents to support the Border Patrol in their efforts to somehow manage the impossible events that are taking place on our southern border with Mexico. I miss Donald J Trump
Our troops are not trained for this endeavor. I say arm them with their personal weapons and tell them to enforce the laws of this great country as they are sworn to do@@@@@@@@@@@
sleepy joe has just aggravated the problem by allowing millions of unvetted illegals into our country..
The end results will be disastrous as our public schools will become impossible to manage without hiring thousands of teachers that an speak Spanish.
Public education will become a farce.
Our hospitals will become overrun with folks with all kinds of diseases as none of these illegals are properly vaccinated and they will add to the already overworked doctors and nurses in these institutions.
Our already understaffed welfare system will be swamped beyond recognition in just a few years.
Free phones, free food, free lodging, free medical care, free education for their kids.. We are financially broke as it is and this will only complicate the problem..
Socialism at it's best
Our troops are not trained for this endeavor. I say arm them with their personal weapons and tell them to enforce the laws of this great country as they are sworn to do@@@@@@@@@@@
sleepy joe has just aggravated the problem by allowing millions of unvetted illegals into our country..
The end results will be disastrous as our public schools will become impossible to manage without hiring thousands of teachers that an speak Spanish.
Public education will become a farce.
Our hospitals will become overrun with folks with all kinds of diseases as none of these illegals are properly vaccinated and they will add to the already overworked doctors and nurses in these institutions.
Our already understaffed welfare system will be swamped beyond recognition in just a few years.
Free phones, free food, free lodging, free medical care, free education for their kids.. We are financially broke as it is and this will only complicate the problem..
Socialism at it's best
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AND VETS GET DORKED !
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Isn't that what we have come to expect?
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Wow are you fellas out in right field. The US military engaged in these activities all over the world. It's about time they did it at home. You can disagree all you like but it's all recorded, look it up.
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Really!
And yes we do have US service personnel serving all over the world but if I'm not mistaken they are there as a deterrent.
And they are not taking names of folks entering that country and doing paper work.
And yes we do have US service personnel serving all over the world but if I'm not mistaken they are there as a deterrent.
And they are not taking names of folks entering that country and doing paper work.
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And the overseas deployments have nothing to do with the posse comitatus act. It ONLY aplies to service in the US.Suzuki Johnny wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:16 amReally!
And yes we do have US service personnel serving all over the world but if I'm not mistaken they are there as a deterrent.
And they are not taking names of folks entering that country and doing paper work.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained
The law generally prevents the president from using the military as a domestic police force....
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