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Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:16 am
by old time rider
Liked my low bar plain jane sportster lots more than my fancy low one with buckhorns.Was 49 when I took it on a allmost 4,000 mile eight day west trip with all camp gear and middle size shield on it.We campped every night and even with being in top third of traffic still got 55mpg! Key for me on days of 600 or more is to stand often.The low bar fit me perfect for that.32 inseam.The Vstrom is first bike owned since that is as good at standing for miles and feel good.Put 11,000 on that sportster in one week less than a year and sold it for more than I rolled it out for.It was a 95.Allso sold my 97 for more allso but only put 6,000 on it.Crazy 90s are gone.Both were one of three bikes at the time being rode and not my main bike.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:10 pm
by jonnycando
Well, checked the head numbers...they are early 883 evo heads...reportedly the earliest batch with rough casting. What I read is the valve seats had enough meat to grind them out for 1200 valves, and a port and polish would finish the job. So if this engine has been bored and the heads prepped, as well as it is pulling I'd say it is in fact built into a 1200.

Here the little beastie is.....definitely a beater but a little...ok a lot of elbow grease and some new parts......

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Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:32 pm
by jonnycando
That's elbow grease yer looking at.....it needs a bit more. The paint is coming off...bad prep. And what I've been able to find on Fleabay, gently used tranmissions.....trap door....gears and the whole banana around 350 ish....not terrible...probably cheaper than removing what's there and having the local dealer rebuild it.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:36 pm
by MattSunn
That's not bad. Looks like gas got to the tank paint. 800 bux and Mexican designer is a pretty good price. [emoji106] That's got possibilities.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:56 pm
by jonnycando
The paint is not adhering well and certainly gas fumes made easy work around the gas bung. Right under the cap there's heavy rust, and since sportster peanut tanks are a dime a dozen, a new one will be in order when the owner decides to paint. Probably just a little more coin and a 3 gallon tank could be had.

Oh, and I am talking turkey with the Triumph dealer about a Rocket III Touring. He's only got a Roadster in stock, but can either special order or do a dealer exchange if one I like can be found. (I want the red and black one.) Maybe end of May I have me one if the terms work for me. I never financed a motorcycle before, but since I've been buying them used I haven't needed to.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:38 pm
by jonnycando
I am salivating I can assure....the get up and go of the Intruder has me hankering for more. And I can tell you that being long leggedy, few bikes really feel comfortable, but I can stretch out nicely on a Rocket Touring. It'll have highway pegs, but where on some bikes, that's a necessity...on this, it'll just be a cherry on the ice cream!

But back to the torque....I do think a safe bike is one that will get out of it's own way!

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:25 pm
by jonnycando
There's an explorer right inside the front door and it's od green....schweeeet!

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:28 pm
by MattSunn
Are you gonna be selling this Sporty or trading it toward the Triumph?

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:48 pm
by enforcer
98VS1400 wrote:For a unique experience Jonny, when at the dealer, ask for a test spin on the Tiger Explorer 1200. While not a Rocket, it does have 135HP and 85 ft/lbs of torque. The riding position is the best part of all though. If you do it, get the 1200 above 6,000 RPMs. That's where the sweet spot is and the triple's growl.
I agree. Power to weight ratio is where it's at. But I rode a Rocket about the same time I rode a VTX1800 and I have to say, especially in the corners, even though balanced and powerful, feel like the heavy sows they are.

I'll bet the Tiger handles like my Beemer with just a little more clearance and a little less weight. Not a bad thing, just not completely comfy for those used to cruisers. Probably could do all day in the saddle without the pressure on my back, but my legs are a but cramped. Probably just need to adjust the seat height.

That being said, the most well balanced heavy cruiser I've ridden is the Raider. And Yammys do hold their value better than Triumphs. Just my 2¢.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:50 pm
by jonnycando
MattSunn wrote:Are you gonna be selling this Sporty or trading it toward the Triumph?
It's not my sporty, it's just living in my garage. Kin you know....And no my Intruder is not going to be sold either.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:53 pm
by jonnycando
enforcer wrote:
98VS1400 wrote:For a unique experience Jonny, when at the dealer, ask for a test spin on the Tiger Explorer 1200. While not a Rocket, it does have 135HP and 85 ft/lbs of torque. The riding position is the best part of all though. If you do it, get the 1200 above 6,000 RPMs. That's where the sweet spot is and the triple's growl.
I agree. Power to weight ratio is where it's at. But I rode a Rocket about the same time I rode a VTX1800 and I have to say, especially in the corners, even though balanced and powerful, feel like the heavy sows they are.

I'll bet the Tiger handles like my Beemer with just a little more clearance and a little less weight. Not a bad thing, just not completely comfy for those used to cruisers. Probably could do all day in the saddle without the pressure on my back, but my legs are a but cramped. Probably just need to adjust the seat height.

That being said, the most well balanced heavy cruiser I've ridden is the Raider. And Yammys do hold their value better than Triumphs. Just my 2¢.
A well cared for Harley holds value pretty good too...but when I buy, I buy to have, not to maintain a selling price. By the time I will be done with it, it will be done for. Once bought it is mine....I will never get rid of it.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:05 pm
by enforcer
jonnycando wrote:
enforcer wrote:
98VS1400 wrote:For a unique experience Jonny, when at the dealer, ask for a test spin on the Tiger Explorer 1200. While not a Rocket, it does have 135HP and 85 ft/lbs of torque. The riding position is the best part of all though. If you do it, get the 1200 above 6,000 RPMs. That's where the sweet spot is and the triple's growl.
I agree. Power to weight ratio is where it's at. But I rode a Rocket about the same time I rode a VTX1800 and I have to say, especially in the corners, even though balanced and powerful, feel like the heavy sows they are.

I'll bet the Tiger handles like my Beemer with just a little more clearance and a little less weight. Not a bad thing, just not completely comfy for those used to cruisers. Probably could do all day in the saddle without the pressure on my back, but my legs are a but cramped. Probably just need to adjust the seat height.

That being said, the most well balanced heavy cruiser I've ridden is the Raider. And Yammys do hold their value better than Triumphs. Just my 2¢.
A well cared for Harley holds value pretty good too...but when I buy, I buy to have, not to maintain a selling price. By the time I will be done with it, it will be done for. Once bought it is mine....I will never get rid of it.
Honestly, I wanted to do that, but couldn't really afford new. So I bought used with a good value when the financing is over. That way, if I'm bored with it in 5 years, I can get something else. Like a nice preowned Vic Cross Country. :naughty:

Besides, Harley upgrades add value, and I won't have to strip them off if I decide to trade in or sell on, just to get my money back. :lmao:

Still liked the Raider tho. It's one to test ride before you decide for sure. :wink:

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:44 pm
by jonnycando
Yammies are bikes to admire, but the Rocket has me smitten, and the Raider don't fit me right.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:06 pm
by enforcer
jonnycando wrote:Yammies are bikes to admire, but the Rocket has me smitten, and the Raider don't fit me right.
I think Cajun had a Rocket III IIRC. Too bad he never made it over here. I'm sure he'd have something good to say about it.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:06 pm
by enforcer
98VS1400 wrote:
enforcer wrote:
jonnycando wrote:Yammies are bikes to admire, but the Rocket has me smitten, and the Raider don't fit me right.
I think Cajun had a Rocket III IIRC. Too bad he never made it over here. I'm sure he'd have something good to say about it.
He did make it over, just with a new name. Can't remember it right now, but I know he hasn't been active in a while.


EDIT: His new name is Steel, and he has a 2012 Rocket III.

http://www.intruders-alert.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=508
Wow, that was a while ago.I could've never remembered that far back. Doubt he's been back since.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:39 pm
by Steel
Yes I do have a Rocket 3 Roadster, and stock it is a beast. With a few mods it's like no other cruiser out there. I sent mine to Carpenter Racing for a motor package.
Carpenter 265 hp dyno.png
If you have a Touring there is a great tune you can download to give you 30 more hp with no mods.
Check out the forum r3owners.net

For the heavy feeling in the turns some people switch to a 140 front tire and claim it feels 150 pounds lighter than with the stock 150 tire.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:45 am
by Steel
You're welcome [emoji106]

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:07 pm
by jonnycando
I don't mind a slight heavy feeling....muscling over in turns makes me feel like I have more control....well more feedback and all and tells me what to do next.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:49 am
by Steel
I don't think it's too heavy, but I was riding a C109 before I got the Rocket. It handles turns better than my M109 did too. Not as light feeling, but much more lean angle.

Re: Sportster in garage

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:55 am
by jonnycando
Ground clearance is handy....I don't mind using my pegs as curb feelers...but I hate buying more pegs!