Re: Any one got the balls to talk to me about god?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:06 am
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I'm not confused. I was, then lost my faith. I was certain there was no God, I believed as you do. I experienced things that led me to believe two things. That there is more to the world than "meets the eye". There are things that shouldn't be possible, that can't yet be explained by science. And from that, that the arrogance is not the belief in the "supernatural" but the absolute disbelief in even the possibility of it. I've found that there are equally close-minded people on both sides of the argument.Fred wrote:Prodigal son, you sound confused to me but I shall not take that as a weakness and prey on you, on the contrary you make some interesting observations.
The fact that you left Christianity and came back is unprecedented in my opinion. Once you have decided that there is no god it is generally for life. I guess you were not so sure. ... Religion is power over people. [emoji106]
Any improperly stored food can contain the botulism toxin. ANY.Fred wrote:
Why dont muslims eat pork? simply because pork can carry botulism and kill, especially in hot climates where moist muslims live--so how to stop them--- mohamed said so!!!!
MadCow wrote:Any improperly stored food can contain the botulism toxin. ANY.Fred wrote:
Why dont muslims eat pork? simply because pork can carry botulism and kill, especially in hot climates where moist muslims live--so how to stop them--- mohamed said so!!!!
Food-borne botulism results from contaminated food in which C. botulinum spores have been allowed to germinate in low-oxygen conditions. This typically occurs in home-canned food substances and fermented uncooked dishes. Botulism can be spread in several different ways. The bacterial spores which cause it are common in both soil and water. They produce the botulinum toxin when exposed to low oxygen levels and certain temperatures.
This idea that pork carries botulism is false.
Additionally, the botulism toxin wasn't discovered until 1897. Mohamed didn't have a clue.
On the contrary Kajun , it is as MC says that any food can harbour untold fatal poisoning, it was not known why at all.KAJUN wrote:MadCow wrote:Any improperly stored food can contain the botulism toxin. ANY.Fred wrote:
Why dont muslims eat pork? simply because pork can carry botulism and kill, especially in hot climates where moist muslims live--so how to stop them--- mohamed said so!!!!
Food-borne botulism results from contaminated food in which C. botulinum spores have been allowed to germinate in low-oxygen conditions. This typically occurs in home-canned food substances and fermented uncooked dishes. Botulism can be spread in several different ways. The bacterial spores which cause it are common in both soil and water. They produce the botulinum toxin when exposed to low oxygen levels and certain temperatures.
This idea that pork carries botulism is false.
Additionally, the botulism toxin wasn't discovered until 1897. Mohamed didn't have a clue.
Ooops Fred....Open mouth, Insert foot......should have done your homework before making those hyperbole statements which you are good for.
Just grabbing so called facts (sic) out f thin air ain't gonna cut it this time.......
But you sure sounded convincing up to the remark about mohammed [emoji106]
As i understand it, (im too lazy to look it up though), it was in the 1700's that ham was noticed to be causing illnesses...I can't recall if it was cured or uncured or whatever, but at the end of the day...it was first seen in pork...this could be why Mohamed mentioned pork/pigs...dunno really. At any rate, it had nothing to do with God really...the confusing part is how it got twisted up as being Gods word...when it's really only about proper food preparation...Fred wrote:On the contrary Kajun , it is as MC says that any food can harbour untold fatal poisoning, it was not known why at all.KAJUN wrote:MadCow wrote:Any improperly stored food can contain the botulism toxin. ANY.Fred wrote:
Why dont muslims eat pork? simply because pork can carry botulism and kill, especially in hot climates where moist muslims live--so how to stop them--- mohamed said so!!!!
Food-borne botulism results from contaminated food in which C. botulinum spores have been allowed to germinate in low-oxygen conditions. This typically occurs in home-canned food substances and fermented uncooked dishes. Botulism can be spread in several different ways. The bacterial spores which cause it are common in both soil and water. They produce the botulinum toxin when exposed to low oxygen levels and certain temperatures.
This idea that pork carries botulism is false.
Additionally, the botulism toxin wasn't discovered until 1897. Mohamed didn't have a clue.
Ooops Fred....Open mouth, Insert foot......should have done your homework before making those hyperbole statements which you are good for.
Just grabbing so called facts (sic) out f thin air ain't gonna cut it this time.......
But you sure sounded convincing up to the remark about mohammed [emoji106]
Although you are quite correct that mohamed would not know what botulism is he did however know that pork has this strange effect of killing people. He may well have not known why but just knew that it was bad. Oh what to do---- don't eat it,---why--- god says so.
The Jews also refuse pork but less finatical than the muslims they know that a refrigerator and careful preparation is all that is required. Some--- eat it and enjoy it.
The jews being insatiable drinkers would have learned as the rest of us did that a bacon sandwich and a cup of tea is the best hang over cure.
That is my point exactly, everything was gods doing in those days. The sun coming up , the sun going down child death. If you dont know why--then its gods will. Oh Moses why do people die when they eat pork and not buffalo, oh err I dont know I will ask god. Moses did you ask god why --oh yes errmm he said dont eat pork at all from now on ok? well this guy didnt die he just got stomach ache and the shits,---look I don't know ok so shut up, god works in mysterious ways. Pig for sale any one want to buy pigs.MadCow wrote: As i understand it, (im too lazy to look it up though), it was in the 1700's that ham was noticed to be causing illnesses...I can't recall if it was cured or uncured or whatever, but at the end of the day...it was first seen in pork...this could be why Mohamed mentioned pork/pigs...dunno really. At any rate, it had nothing to do with God really...the confusing part is how it got twisted up as being Gods word...when it's really only about proper food preparation...
First off fred to become a believer you need to change that better than thou attitude. Oh and from what I have seen of your posting you always complain.Fred wrote:Thank you for your prayers but you might want to use them to better use for some one more needy. Yes I am an athiest and yet I seem to get cut a good deal on a lot of things, I cant complain.
Oh there is a God and he really doesn't spend all day thinking of things to do to you or anyone else. As has been said you were given a free will to do as you please and you have decided to do your best to make others have a living hell on earth. Wait, there is no hell. So you must waste all your time making peoples lives feel like hell if there was one. Grow some balls and become something other than a pimple on a real persons ass.If there is a god ( ha ha) he seems to have one eye on me too, but then why should he? He does not seem to have any time for others that need him badly and they believe in him. This is a rotten trick to play on some one.
You have to have a heart to break it. For someone who doesn't believe in God you sure know a lot about him and what he can do. To understand what God is all about you would have to study the bible for ages and then if you are lucky you might understand what God is all about. Personally I have chosen to read and believe in the Conversations With God books. In them and the bible you will find out that nobody really dies but that the body dies and the soul lives on. All the misery that happens on the Earth are man made not because God has decided to punish someone. That includes all diseases, storms of all types and personal trauma, none of those or any other trauma you can think of is caused by God.It breaks my heart to see god loving people die from bone cancer or brain tumour, these and thousands of other death reasons are not from bad life style but designed by god himself, What is bone cancer for?
Why does fred live and others that believe die? why why Maybe you can ask God for the answer when your body dies.Why does a volcano blow up and kill thousands, why make a tsunami flood land killing thousands, why why.
The only reason that explains it perfectly is because God is experiencing life thru the way you live life. Actually it is from the way you react to situations that he learns what it feels like to experience all things. If you really understood you would be a believer and not a non-believer.The only reason that explains it perfectly is that god does not exist Now it all fits and I understand.
He'll get around to it in his own sweet time. He's like Obama, he won't stay gone long enough and when he comes back he is a PITA.Suzuki Johnny wrote:Seems like Fred doesn't want to respond to your comments John
The thing that gets me about all these religions, is that they all seem to think that God wrote a book.. When that's simply just not the case.BlacktopTravelr wrote:
" To understand what God is all about you would have to study the bible for ages and then if you are lucky you might understand what God is all about."
It is getting late and I am just getting started on this thread, but as Arnie says.... I'll be back. [emoji2]
KAJUN wrote:And faith will lead you to the promised land of milk and honey....God will forgive any sinner............and I am one
My faith isn't in religion...it's in Jesus Christ the Almighty God
If god will forgive any sinner what is hell for.KAJUN wrote:And faith will lead you to the promised land of milk and honey....God will forgive any sinner............and I am one
My faith isn't in religion...it's in Jesus Christ the Almighty God