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Re: Ukraine War leaker
I'm sure he'll get the same treatment as "Chelsea" Manning.
Oh, wait...this kid isn't trans so, probly' not!
Oh, wait...this kid isn't trans so, probly' not!
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This is true. I look at it two ways. 1 He did us all a favor and 2 he broke the law and could have do it another way. So I am glad he did it but wish he would have done it legally. Doesn't matter now his life is over and he will spend most of it in prison.Tbeck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:40 pmSgt, agreed this kid's not much different than Snowden. He may well have done us all a favor but at the same time he committed an act of treason. He had the ability to bring this information to light using whistleblower protocol but instead acted as a spy by posting sensitive documents for our enemies to see.
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Maybe the next Republican President will pardon him and set him free
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SJ, why? He broke the law, and violated his oath.
As I said earlier he had an option to do it right and he chose wrong. He can rot in prison for all I care.
As I said earlier he had an option to do it right and he chose wrong. He can rot in prison for all I care.
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Considering the real crime, treason, is what he exposed and not a damn thing is being done about it, I hope so.Suzuki Johnny wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:21 amMaybe the next Republican President will pardon him and set him free
When I took the oath, numerous times, I swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the LAWFUL orders of theose appointed over me.
Seems to me that what he did was follow his oath, or, did they change the oath in the last 18 years???
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Except for the "obey the LAWFUL orders" part. Regardless of the situation if the documents are marked as Secret or Top Secret he had a duty to protect the information. He had other available means of exposing the truth that would have been lawful.Herb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:21 pmConsidering the real crime, treason, is what he exposed and not a damn thing is being done about it, I hope so.Suzuki Johnny wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:21 amMaybe the next Republican President will pardon him and set him free
When I took the oath, numerous times, I swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the LAWFUL orders of theose appointed over me.
Seems to me that what he did was follow his oath, or, did they change the oath in the last 18 years???
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Tell me EXACTLY what other means are avalilable when the government agencies he is working for are co- conspiracists in covering up treason???sgtcall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:21 pmExcept for the "obey the LAWFUL orders" part. Regardless of the situation if the documents are marked as Secret or Top Secret he had a duty to protect the information. He had other available means of exposing the truth that would have been lawful.Herb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:21 pmConsidering the real crime, treason, is what he exposed and not a damn thing is being done about it, I hope so.Suzuki Johnny wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:21 amMaybe the next Republican President will pardon him and set him free
When I took the oath, numerous times, I swore to defend the Constitution of the US and to obey the LAWFUL orders of theose appointed over me.
Seems to me that what he did was follow his oath, or, did they change the oath in the last 18 years???
Also what is wrong with pointing out the lawful order part???
It is too fucking easy for government agents to assign designations to documents in an effort to cover up misdeeds. Just as they did with the bullshit they used going after Trump.
Keep in mind that the originator of a document is allowed to assign any classification they see fit and it takes someone higher up to change it and damn few will ever question something that is technically from the President.
I consider myself lucky that I wwas never faced with that issue. HOWEVER, I know that if I had taken something like that up the chain of command I would have been lucky to only end up with a BCD for even pointing it out.
Again, why is the crime that was revealed not being addressed?
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He could have applied for whistle blower protections and taken his findings to congress.Herb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:16 pm
Tell me EXACTLY what other means are avalilable when the government agencies he is working for are co- conspiracists in covering up treason???
Also what is wrong with pointing out the lawful order part???
It is too fucking easy for government agents to assign designations to documents in an effort to cover up misdeeds. Just as they did with the bullshit they used going after Trump.
Keep in mind that the originator of a document is allowed to assign any classification they see fit and it takes someone higher up to change it and damn few will ever question something that is technically from the President.
I consider myself lucky that I wwas never faced with that issue. HOWEVER, I know that if I had taken something like that up the chain of command I would have been lucky to only end up with a BCD for even pointing it out.
Again, why is the crime that was revealed not being addressed?
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Do you really think that would have worked??? Yeah, it would have gone to congress, he MIGHT have been protected, but the whole thing would have died there.
Even with the evidence he released publicly the chance of anything being done seems to be nonexistant... If it was all in secrecy you can damn well bet nothing would have been done.
Even with the evidence he released publicly the chance of anything being done seems to be nonexistant... If it was all in secrecy you can damn well bet nothing would have been done.
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Herb, as pointed out he committed treason and at best violated his oath. Two wrongs don't make a right. We used to understand that idea but we have forgotten or choose to ignore what is wrong. There's ALWAYS an excuse for wrong deeds, but these individuals voluntarily took an oath to serve the people and purposely violated that oath.
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US Military whistleblower LT Scott Bennet drops bombshell on Ukrainian Bio-weapons Labs.
"It originally started in 2005 with the Defence Intelligence Agency…which created a 501 C3…called the Global Viral Forecasting Institute…with a Mossad Operative named Nathan Wolfe…which became Metabiota.
This was funded by Rosemont , an investment firm, where Hunter Biden was the head of…along with Christopher Heinz (John Kerry’s son) and Paul Pelosi…Nancy Pelosi’s son.
The West has been developing this under Obama and Biden for the last 10 years for the purposes of generating Biological and Chemical Warfare to use against the Russians, which is why they’ve been collecting DNA samples from Slavic People. Revelations of a Massive War Crime…Crimes Against Humanity …as it’s a violation of the Global Biological Weapons Agreement.
This shows America with its 30 BIOLABS in Ukraine was involved in the experimentation on Human to Animal Transmission…which is precisely the origin of ‘Covid-19’."
-LT. Scott Bennett
"It originally started in 2005 with the Defence Intelligence Agency…which created a 501 C3…called the Global Viral Forecasting Institute…with a Mossad Operative named Nathan Wolfe…which became Metabiota.
This was funded by Rosemont , an investment firm, where Hunter Biden was the head of…along with Christopher Heinz (John Kerry’s son) and Paul Pelosi…Nancy Pelosi’s son.
The West has been developing this under Obama and Biden for the last 10 years for the purposes of generating Biological and Chemical Warfare to use against the Russians, which is why they’ve been collecting DNA samples from Slavic People. Revelations of a Massive War Crime…Crimes Against Humanity …as it’s a violation of the Global Biological Weapons Agreement.
This shows America with its 30 BIOLABS in Ukraine was involved in the experimentation on Human to Animal Transmission…which is precisely the origin of ‘Covid-19’."
-LT. Scott Bennett
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