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Tbeck wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:16 am
This is the problem with these election case's,...... you must have evidence, and that doesn't mean sworn affidavits. Those are just hearsay ....
WRONG. :space: Those affidavits about the election cases are Not all,...."just hearsay". :space: Most all the Sworn Affidavits about the Election FRAUD since the 2020 election were persons giving Eyewitness Testimony Of Actions/Events They Saw First Hand,.....not hearsay of what they heard from another person/source.

And,..Affidavits Are Evidence; :space: Here,.... let ME... Educate YOU.

The main purpose of an affidavit is to provide evidence in a court of law. :space: It acts as an assurance or guarantees that it was written under oath, hence the name ‘affidavit‘.

Can affidavit be used as evidence?

Affidavits are used in courts all the time. :space: When a witness swears to tell the truth about what he saw before he testifies, he’s swearing out an affidavit. :space: An affidavit can also be used as evidence in court ......if the person swearing out the affidavit cannot be present to testify. Depositions are similar to affidavits — they are statements made under oath — but depositions are made outside of court and affidavits are written statements sworn to in front of a notary public.

Affidavits are legal documents and may be submitted as evidence in a court case. :space: In criminal cases, they may be used as part of plea bargaining negotiations. In civil cases, affidavits may be used during discovery or as part of a motion before trial, or even as evidence at trial.


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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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Comments have been made about if there is enough fraud to sway the election. People putting this kind of shit about ignoring the crime out should be in jail themselves as accomplices.

What the hell folks, ALL election/voter fraud, no matter how small needs to be investigated and proscuted. If it is't then the whole whole election is a waste of time.

Dismissing a case because there MIGHT not be enough fraud to change the election is plain and simple turning a blind eye to crimes. I see this shit as the ignoring the broken window theory that allows crimes to escalate.
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Herb wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:23 am
Comments have been made about if there is enough fraud to sway the election. People putting this kind of shit about ignoring the crime out should be in jail themselves as accomplices.

What the hell folks, ALL election/voter fraud, no matter how small needs to be investigated and proscuted. If it is't then the whole whole election is a waste of time.

Dismissing a case because there MIGHT not be enough fraud to change the election is plain and simple turning a blind eye to crimes. I see this shit as the ignoring the broken window theory that allows crimes to escalate.
Thoughtfully and well stated. I can take nothing away from that. I’ll respectfully leave it alone and not needlessly add to it…

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Herb wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:23 am
Comments have been made about if there is enough fraud to sway the election. People putting this kind of shit about ignoring the crime out should be in jail themselves as accomplices.
Did you mean put people in jail for saying things you don't want to hear?

Sorry dude but there is an element of fraud in EVERY election and it can't ALL be investigated. You'd never get a result in another election for about a year if that were to happen. That's why they look at the numbers.

Again - sorry to anyone who doesn't like the results of this case. But it proves you have a legal system and a path to recourse. Just bring proof next time.

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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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RoadKing wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:18 am

I’m not missing your point. I find it invalid. Why? Here is why…

Our Republic cannot survive in a corrupt lawless condition. That’s a fact. “A Republic if you can keep it”. Like it or not, believe it or nay, our Republic was founded with the knowledge that it is based upon moral and spiritual values, values that are not “subjective”, the loss of these values spells doom. The loss of these values is why our country is declining.

Militias? Bullshit. Going to DC? Bullshit. That option is no longer viable. Think Jan 6, 2001. No one needs that shit any more. Militias? Bullshit. Rather, think of the people in the vast area of rural America and they are going nowhere, especially not to DC. When the fabric finally snaps, the cities, including DC, will see terrible civil violence and flames and rural America will stay home, in their communities with family and abundance of locally produced food stuff. If you think the majority of Americans are only interested in their gadgets, you are thinking like a typical city boy.

I believe my points are intermixed with yours. Yes, you are 100% correct in that, the loss of these values that our nation was founded on will spell destruction for us all. But the Republic "has" survived in a corrupt condition for decades. At what point does the lawless cross the line into the end of this nation? Is the political corruptness just an aspect that can maintain the ruled classes? Or does the ruling classes just submit to "business as usual".

Obviously, there has to be some major events (food shortage or bans, police states, mass murders by the states, etc) that would cause total chaos. Although it may begin where the people hole up in their cities and towns, how long would that last until the political wing eventually covers over these cities and towns (because you know they will)?

I see right now that the MAJORITY would take it. This is no longer anything CLOSE to the "Greatest Generation", where the men knew their duty was to sacrifice for the greater good. Today, the MAJORITY have been "trained" to wait for the handouts, brainwashed into thinking a government is designed to PROVIDE for their every need. They're sheep...and they don't even know it!
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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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Designer, you missed the point. Yes a sworn affidavit is a legal statement of a person's eye witness account, but they're pretty useless in the absence of hard evidence or when countered by a witness on the stand who can be cross examined. Additionally the validity of eye witness testimony has been proven to be inaccurate at best. Ask any cop.

In this case the plaintiffs failed to provide enough evidence of intent, wrongdoing, and/or deliberate action to disenfranchise voter's.

Much was made of the printing size which the defense overcame with evidence. The chain of custody and disenfranchised voter's were the two fact's that SHOULD have been an easy dunk for the Lake team, but they brought nothing to prove either had any impact, nothing.
So at the end of the testimony all you have is the Lake team claiming, but nothing solid to stand on. This further nullifies the affidavits.
DF, The judge allowed for the trial based on the disenfranchisement of voter's and chain of custody. Lake's team should have brought evidence supporting their position and they didn't. You can't blame the judge for ruling based on the evidence and that is what he did. That is as objective as one can be. For lake's team to have been successful they needed to bring in voter's who couldn't vote due to the printer issues, and evidence that ballots were injected during the break in chain of custody. They did neither.

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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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Tbeck wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:32 pm
Designer, you missed the point. Yes a sworn affidavit is a legal statement of a person's eye witness account, but they're pretty useless in the absence of hard evidence or when countered by a witness on the stand who can be cross examined. Additionally the validity of eye witness testimony has been proven to be inaccurate at best. Ask any cop.
Cute,...nice little Deflection there...using the same line as you did with RoadKing's message,...but,...No Sale,....for everyone sees,....it is YOU that Missed The Point.

You said this;
Tbeck wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:16 am
This is the problem with these election case's,...... you must have evidence, and that doesn't mean sworn affidavits. Those are just hearsay ....
See Your Words there is RED?....the word......."JUST HEARSAY" ?

Then what was posted that points out your how wrong you are?;
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Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:22 am
WRONG. :space: Those affidavits about the election cases are Not all,...."just hearsay". :space: Most all the Sworn Affidavits about the Election FRAUD since the 2020 election were persons giving Eyewitness Testimony Of Actions/Events They Saw First Hand,.....not hearsay of what they heard from another person/source.
And,...what was posted that SCHOOLS YOU about your WRONGNESS?;
And,..Affidavits Are Evidence; :space: Here,.... let ME... Educate YOU.

The main purpose of an affidavit is to provide evidence in a court of law. :space: It acts as an assurance or guarantees that it was written under oath, hence the name ‘affidavit‘.

Can affidavit be used as evidence?
Affidavits are used in courts all the time. :space: When a witness swears to tell the truth about what he saw before he testifies, he’s swearing out an affidavit. :space: An affidavit can also be used as evidence in court ......if the person swearing out the affidavit cannot be present to testify. Depositions are similar to affidavits — they are statements made under oath — but depositions are made outside of court and affidavits are written statements sworn to in front of a notary public.

Affidavits are legal documents and may be submitted as evidence in a court case.



It is your cavalier attitude of dismissing EVIDENCE by calling it Hearsay that is fundamental to perpetuating the Election STEALING we see going on.
Such LACKING in taking serious the evidence(s) of the biased destruction of the election process that is going on reveals more about you.


So,...cut the Evasional Crap Timmy. :space: You Aren't-Not-Gunna BULL-SHIT US. :space: :wink:


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SHE WAS COOKED! THE DEM'S RIGGED IT AND THEY DON'T CARE, EXCEPT THAT IT WORKED AND THEY WON

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I’m paying attention to Arizona, it’s a whole lot warmer there than where I’m at. Paying attention
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MORE Designer dishonesty, posting PART of the quote that suits his argument. That's why he's wrong so often. He only chicken peck's bit's of information to make his argument instead of actually researching, which in most instances would prove him wrong.
Tsk tsk

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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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Tbeck wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:08 am
MORE Designer dishonesty, posting PART of the quote that suits his argument. That's why he's wrong so often. He only chicken peck's bit's of information to make his argument instead of actually researching, which in most instances would prove him wrong. Tsk tsk
AGAIN,...we see Timmy grasping at straws to deflect away from what he said.

This Phony Argument of his is meant to Deflect Attention away from HIS EXACT WORDS. :space: His Own Words that displays his Ignorance of the Issue(s) regarding THE EVIDENCE of Election Fraud,.....LAWFUL, COURT ACCEPTABLE EVIDENCE but forth in SWORN STATEMENTS.....which ARE NOT mere "hearsay" as HE SAID THEY ARE.

Your repeated insistence on Deflection is not only Dishonest,...it An Insult To Our Intelligence that you even THINK we will buy this bullshit of yours.

And now,...we see you Stoop to your other line of CRAP by posting an entire Thread whining about your being caught doing this.

HE JUST CAN'T...... stop.....BEING,...this way ! :lmao:
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I grasp at nothing, everyone can read for themselves little Designer. The only fake is you.

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Re: If you aren't paying attention to Arizona...

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Tbeck wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:03 pm
I grasp at nothing, everyone can read for themselves little Designer. The only fake is you.
MORE Deflection!

Talk about being FAKE?.....Timmy, this last piece of tripe you posted does NOT erase,...nor even diminish,..the WRONGNEES in what you said;
Designer wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:22 am
Tbeck wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:16 am
This is the problem with these election case's,...... you must have evidence, and that doesn't mean sworn affidavits. Those are just hearsay ....
WRONG. :space: Those affidavits about the election cases are Not all,...."just hearsay". :space: Most all the Sworn Affidavits about the Election FRAUD since the 2020 election were persons giving Eyewitness Testimony Of Actions/Events They Saw First Hand,.....not hearsay of what they heard from another person/source.

And,..Affidavits Are Evidence; :space: Here,.... let ME... Educate YOU.

The main purpose of an affidavit is to provide evidence in a court of law. :space: It acts as an assurance or guarantees that it was written under oath, hence the name ‘affidavit‘.

Can affidavit be used as evidence?

Affidavits are used in courts all the time. :space: When a witness swears to tell the truth about what he saw before he testifies, he’s swearing out an affidavit. :space: An affidavit can also be used as evidence in court ......if the person swearing out the affidavit cannot be present to testify. Depositions are similar to affidavits — they are statements made under oath — but depositions are made outside of court and affidavits are written statements sworn to in front of a notary public.

Affidavits are legal documents and may be submitted as evidence in a court case. :space: In criminal cases, they may be used as part of plea bargaining negotiations. In civil cases, affidavits may be used during discovery or as part of a motion before trial, or even as evidence at trial.


https://strictlylegal.in/what-is-an-aff ... -evidence/

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Holy shit :lmao:


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Still humiliating yourself with reposting your dishonest quote's? Tsk tsk....

The problem you have is everyone can read my posts for themselves. So YOUR attempt to deflect from your dishonest tactics, just reenforces how desperate you are. Post all you like, I enjoy emphasizing your dishonesty. :Cool:

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Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
Still humiliating yourself with reposting your dishonest quote's? Tsk tsk....
Poor Timmy,...... his sad postings about "dishonesty" deepens even MORE. :space: While trying to Save Face over THE FACTS showing you were wrong, you've posted deflection, obfuscation, and posting a lie,..,.....now Delusion!

Timmy,.....we on The Board ALL SEE that what I posted is Your Words,...HONESTLY AND TRUTHFULLY. :space: It is right there,... and that they showed you ARE WRONG in what you said about these Election Affidavits being "just hearsay",.....all backed by THE FACTS. :wink:

All you succeed in doing by repeating this Denial Of Reality is burying your reputation EVEN FURTHER.

Why don't you see that? :blink: :space: :space: We all do! :dunno:
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Designer wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 am
Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
Still humiliating yourself with reposting your dishonest quote's? Tsk tsk....
Poor Timmy,...... his sad postings about "dishonesty" deepens even MORE. :space: While trying to Save Face over THE FACTS showing you were wrong, you've posted deflection, obfuscation, and posting a lie,..,.....now Delusion!

Timmy,.....we on The Board ALL SEE that what I posted is Your Words,...HONESTLY AND TRUTHFULLY. :space: It is right there,... and that they showed you ARE WRONG in what you said about these Election Affidavits being "just hearsay",.....all backed by THE FACTS. :wink:

All you succeed in doing by repeating this Denial Of Reality is burying your reputation EVEN FURTHER.

Why don't you see that? :blink: :space: :space: We all do! :dunno:
We on the board all see. ALL see? All five of us? You are delusional, playing before your massive audience. What a joke.
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RoadKing wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:00 am
Designer wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 am
Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
Still humiliating yourself with reposting your dishonest quote's? Tsk tsk....
Poor Timmy,...... his sad postings about "dishonesty" deepens even MORE. :space: While trying to Save Face over THE FACTS showing you were wrong, you've posted deflection, obfuscation, and posting a lie,..,.....now Delusion! Timmy,.....we on The Board ALL SEE that what I posted is Your Words,...HONESTLY AND TRUTHFULLY. :space: It is right there,... and that they showed you ARE WRONG in what you said about these Election Affidavits being "just hearsay",.....all backed by THE FACTS. :wink: All you succeed in doing by repeating this Denial Of Reality is burying your reputation EVEN FURTHER. Why don't you see that? :blink: :space: :space: We all do! :dunno:
We on the board all see. ALL see? All five of us? You are delusional, playing before your massive audience. What a joke.
Not to get in with it with you,...but,....There are several, if not many, who visit these Threads and don't post messages on them. :space: may I point out the View Count vs Replies?,... that will show that there.

And,...it's not I that has claimed a..."massive audience". :space: I am responding to what Timmy says about "Everyone" on this board. :dunno:
Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
The problem you have is everyone can read my posts for themselves.
Tbeck wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:03 pm
I grasp at nothing, everyone can read for themselves little Designer.
Tbeck wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:08 pm
...... you put all the aforementioned on display for everyone who doesn't already know ......

Interesting that you mention his Phony Board Name of "Teach",...used when he was hiding from his past that he created on The Purple Board when he first came over here. :space: His Deflection CRAP was so bad that it was called out EVEN THEN;
YoDude wrote: Teach....stop deflecting and stay on topic plz, or don't respond. Yo-
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Designer wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:32 am
RoadKing wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:00 am
Designer wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 am
Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
Still humiliating yourself with reposting your dishonest quote's? Tsk tsk....
Poor Timmy,...... his sad postings about "dishonesty" deepens even MORE. :space: While trying to Save Face over THE FACTS showing you were wrong, you've posted deflection, obfuscation, and posting a lie,..,.....now Delusion! Timmy,.....we on The Board ALL SEE that what I posted is Your Words,...HONESTLY AND TRUTHFULLY. :space: It is right there,... and that they showed you ARE WRONG in what you said about these Election Affidavits being "just hearsay",.....all backed by THE FACTS. :wink: All you succeed in doing by repeating this Denial Of Reality is burying your reputation EVEN FURTHER. Why don't you see that? :blink: :space: :space: We all do! :dunno:
We on the board all see. ALL see? All five of us? You are delusional, playing before your massive audience. What a joke.
Not to get in with it with you,...but,....There are several, if not many, who visit these Threads and don't post messages on them. :space: may I point out the View Count vs Replies?,... that will show that there.

And,...it's not I that has claimed a..."massive audience". :space: I am responding to what Timmy says about "Everyone" on this board. :dunno:
Tbeck wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:07 am
The problem you have is everyone can read my posts for themselves.
Tbeck wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:03 pm
I grasp at nothing, everyone can read for themselves little Designer.
Tbeck wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:08 pm
...... you put all the aforementioned on display for everyone who doesn't already know ......
Not to get in it with me? :lmao: It’s a good thing. Sitting at a campfire with no links for you to quote i would destroy your weak thinking.
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Funny that you keep bringing up the Teach character and attribute that to me? Hmmm seems lots of people call me "teach." For example RK when he's unhappy with me does so. Just like folk's calling you Skippy, Skippy..... Maybe that's a secret identity you use to hide from your past? :blink:

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