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Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:14 pm
by hillsy
Cuban wrote: Image

One other thing - this needle has the witness marks VERY HIGH up on the mating surface. Almost like someone has drilled out the seat in an attempt to allow more fuel to flow into the bowl.

You might want to check the seat isn't damaged - although you are getting a new set anyway but that could have been part of the issue.

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:02 am
by jeffcoslacker
hillsy wrote:
Cuban wrote: Image

witness marks
I gotta remember that. Neat term, I ran across it once or twice before, but hasn't made it into my arsenal yet [emoji106]

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:37 am
by Cuban
hillsy wrote: ... One other thing - this needle has the witness marks VERY HIGH up on the mating surface. Almost like someone has drilled out the seat in an attempt to allow more fuel to flow into the bowl. You might want to check the seat isn't damaged - although you are getting a new set anyway but that could have been part of the issue.
[emoji2] I think I can answer that. This needle/seat set is stamped 3.3 on the bottom. I believe that's the orifice opening. When I went looking for a replacement set, I found them listed at anywhere from 1.5 up to 3.5, so the opening on this set is quite large, relatively speaking. Much like Jeffco's pie hole... not the biggest, but certainly getting there. :jester:

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:06 pm
by jeffcoslacker
Cuban wrote: Much like Jeffco's pie hole... not the biggest, but certainly getting there. :jester:
OY!...steady there... :fu:

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:41 pm
by Cuban
[emoji2] Status update...

Installed the new Needle/Seat today. A few short test rides later and it doesn't appear to be sticking open yet. Time will tell. We think the rust is all outta the tank now. Looks pretty clean in there actually...


New unit...

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Thanks for all your help guys. :cheers:

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:19 am
by Spyder
Attaboy! [emoji106]

Re: Carb needle and seat question...

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:01 pm
by Fred
The brass seat assy gest tarnished from water and dirt along with the needle itself , this causes a sticky movement.

Polish the inside of the seat with a cotton bud ( cuty tips) and an electric drill with rubbing compound . Lighty sand the 4 corners of the needle with 800 grit wet and dry, dont worry about taking metal off its 800 grit and a little slop wont hurt.

Push the drill over to the side to polish the walls. Clean thouroughly.

Adjust the float so it pushes as straight up and down as you can. Bend what ever you need to to get the right level and attack on the needle.

The needle does not need much movement,-- 3-4mm is ample